BugId fails with error: "No module for cdb id 'ntdll'"

[maxcoderrrr]

Hi,
I was running the latest release of BugId and encountered the following error:

┌───[ Software license warning ]───────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────
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│ ▲ You have no license for mBugId and your trial period will expire on May 9th, 2023
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→ Command line: C:\test\test.exe C:\test\test.input
+ Main process 7940/0x1F04 (test.exe, x86, IL:3): Attached ("C:\test\test.exe" C:\test\test.input).
┌───[ Fatal builtins.AssertionError Exception in thread 6536/0x1988 (cThread#1ED06B6CF10{main = __fRun, #6536, running}) ]
│ No module for cdb id 'ntdll' (address = 0x7734`0000):
│ Module <cdb id not cached> (C:\test\test.exe) at 0xA8`0000, Module <cdb id not cached> (C:\Windows\SYSTEM32\ntdll.dll) at 0x7FFA`9662`0000, Module <cdb id not cached> (C:\Windows\System32\verifier.dll) at 0x400`0000, Module <cdb id not cached> (C:\Windows\System32\wow64.dll) at 0x7FFA`94C4`0000, Module <cdb id not cached> (C:\Windows\System32\wow64win.dll) at 0x7FFA`95DA`0000, Module <cdb id not cached> (C:\Windows\System32\wow64cpu.dll) at 0x7733`0000
│ 
│ Local variables:
│   o0Module = None
│   oModule = <instance mBugId.cModule.cModule:cModule>#1ED06B6F650
│   oSelf = <mBugId.cProcess.cProcess.cProcess object at 0x000001ED06BB1D10>#1ED06BB1D10
│   sbCdbId = <instance builtins:bytes "b'ntdll'">#1ED06AF2EE0
│   u0StartAddress = 1999896576
│ 
│ Stack for thread 6536/0x1988 (cThread#1ED06B6CF10{main = __fRun, #6536, running}):
│ ─┐ __fRun @ C:\bugid\modules\mBugId\cCdbWrapper\cCdbWrapper_cHelperThread.py:66
│  │ 65:      try:
│  │ 66:        oSelf.__fActivity(*oSelf.__axActivityArguments);
│  ├─┐ cCdbWrapper_fCdbStdInOutHelperThread @ C:\bugid\modules\mBugId\cCdbWrapper\cCdbWrapper_fCdbStdInOutHelperThread.py:54
│  ╷ │ 53:    oCdbWrapper.fbFireCallbacks("Log message", "Main loop #%d" % uMainLoopCounter);
│  ╷ │ 54:    (bEventIsFatal, bEventHasBeenHandled) = oCdbWrapper.ftbHandleLastCdbEvent(asbOutputWhileRunningApplication);
│  ╷ ├─┐ cCdbWrapper_ftbHandleLastCdbEvent @ C:\bugid\modules\mBugId\cCdbWrapper\cCdbWrapper_ftbHandleLastCdbEvent.py:214
│  ╷ ╷ │ 213:    oCdbWrapper.o0ReservedMemoryVirtualAllocation = None;
│  ╷ ╷ │ 214:  o0BugReport = cBugReport.fo0CreateForException(
│  ╷ ╷ ├─┐ cBugReport?.fo0CreateForException @ C:\bugid\modules\mBugId\cBugReport\cBugReport.py:134
│  ╷ ╷ ╷ │ 133:    # Create a preliminary error report.
│  ╷ ╷ ╷ │ 134:    o0BugReport = cBugReport.foCreate(
│  ╷ ╷ ╷ ├─┐ cBugReport?.foCreate @ C:\bugid\modules\mBugId\cBugReport\cBugReport.py:181
│  ╷ ╷ ╷ ╷ │ 180:    );
│  ╷ ╷ ╷ ╷ │ 181:    fApplyBugTranslationsToBugReport(oCdbWrapper, oBugReport);
│  ╷ ╷ ╷ ╷ ├─┐ fApplyBugTranslationsToBugReport @ C:\bugid\modules\mBugId\mBugTranslations\fApplyBugTranslationsToBugReport.py:65
│  ╷ ╷ ╷ ╷ ╷ │ 64:    for oBugTranslation in aoBugTranslations:
│  ╷ ╷ ╷ ╷ ╷ │ 65:      if oBugTranslation.fbApplyToBugReport(oCdbWrapper, oBugReport):
│  ╷ ╷ ╷ ╷ ╷ ├─┐ cBugTranslation?.fbApplyToBugReport @ C:\bugid\modules\mBugId\mBugTranslations\cBugTranslation.py:137
│  ╷ ╷ ╷ ╷ ╷ ╷ │ 136:    # If more top frames may be irrelevant, see if they are there and hide them:
│  ╷ ╷ ╷ ╷ ╷ ╷ │ 137:    if (oSelf.bAdditionalIrrelevantNoneTopStackFrames or oSelf.rb0AdditionalIrrelevantStackFrameSymbols) and oBugReport.o0Stack:
│  ╷ ╷ ╷ ╷ ╷ ╷ ├─┐ o0Stack @ C:\bugid\modules\mBugId\cBugReport\cBugReport.py:101
│  ╷ ╷ ╷ ╷ ╷ ╷ ╷ │ 100:    if oSelf.__o0Stack is None:
│  ╷ ╷ ╷ ╷ ╷ ╷ ╷ │ 101:      oSelf.__o0Stack = cStack.foCreate(oSelf.__oProcess, oSelf.__oWindowsAPIThread, oSelf.uStackFramesCount);
│  ╷ ╷ ╷ ╷ ╷ ╷ ╷ ├─┐ cStack?.foCreate @ C:\bugid\modules\mBugId\cStack.py:269
│  ╷ ╷ ╷ ╷ ╷ ╷ ╷ ╷ │ 268:        o0Function, i0OffsetFromStartOfFunction
│  ╷ ╷ ╷ ╷ ╷ ╷ ╷ ╷ │ 269:      ) = oProcess.ftxSplitSymbolOrAddress(sbCdbSymbolOrAddress);
│  ╷ ╷ ╷ ╷ ╷ ╷ ╷ ╷ ├─┐ cProcess_ftxSplitSymbolOrAddress @ C:\bugid\modules\mBugId\cProcess\cProcess_ftxSplitSymbolOrAddress.py:40
│  ╷ ╷ ╷ ╷ ╷ ╷ ╷ ╷ ╷ │ 39:    sbModuleCdbId = sb0ModuleCdbIdOrAddress;
│  ╷ ╷ ╷ ╷ ╷ ╷ ╷ ╷ ╷ │ 40:    o0Module = oProcess.fo0GetModuleForCdbId(sbModuleCdbId);
│  ╷ ╷ ╷ ╷ ╷ ╷ ╷ ╷ ╷ ├─┐ cProcess?.fo0GetModuleForCdbId @ C:\bugid\modules\mBugId\cProcess\cProcess.py:114
│  ╷ ╷ ╷ ╷ ╷ ╷ ╷ ╷ ╷ ╷ │ 113:    o0Module = oSelf.fo0GetModuleForStartAddress(u0StartAddress);
│  ╷ ╷ ╷ ╷ ╷ ╷ ╷ ╷ ╷ ╷ │ 114:    assert o0Module, \
│  ╒═══════════════════╛ ▲ Assertion failed: "No module for cdb id 'ntdll' (address = 0x7734`0000):\nModule <cdb id not cached> (C:\\test\\test.exe) at 0xA8`0000, Module <cdb id not cached> (C:\\Windows\\SYSTEM32\\ntdll.dll) at 0x7FFA`9662`0000, Module <cdb id not cached> (C:\\Windows\\System32\\verifier.dll) at 0x400`0000, Module <cdb id not cached> (C:\\Windows\\System32\\wow64.dll) at 0x7FFA`94C4`0000, Module <cdb id not cached> (C:\\Windows\\System32\\wow64win.dll) at 0x7FFA`95DA`0000, Module <cdb id not cached> (C:\\Windows\\System32\\wow64cpu.dll) at 0x7733`0000"
│  │ __fRun @ C:\bugid\modules\mBugId\cCdbWrapper\cCdbWrapper_cHelperThread.py:74
│  │ 73:        cException, oException, oTraceBack = sys.exc_info();
│  │ 74:        if not oSelf.__oCdbWrapper.fbFireCallbacks("Internal exception", oSelf.__oThread, oException, oTraceBack):
│ ═╛ ▲ Application terminated because exception was not handled.
└──────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────

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┌───[ Version information ]────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────
│ ▲ BugId version: 2022-12-12 12:05 (in trial period).
│ ▲ mBugId version: 2022-12-12 12:05 (in trial period).
│ √ mConsole version: 2022-12-12 12:05.
│ √ mDateTime version: 2022-12-12 12:04.
│ √ mDebugOutput version: 2022-12-12 12:05.
│ √ mFileSystemItem version: 2022-12-12 12:05.
│ √ mHumanReadable version: 2022-12-12 12:04.
│ √ mMultiThreading version: 2022-12-12 12:05.
│ √ mNotProvided version: 2022-12-12 12:04.
│ √ mProductDetails version: 2022-12-12 12:05.
│ √ mRegistry version: 2022-12-12 12:05.
│ √ mWindowsAPI version: 2022-12-12 12:05.
│ √ mWindowsSDK version: 2022-12-12 12:04.
│ • Windows version: Windows 10 Pro release 1909, build 18363 x64.
│ • Python version: 3.11.1 x64.
│ • cdb.exe (x86) version: 10.0.22621.755.
│ • cdb.exe (x64) version: 10.0.22621.755.
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Thank you in advance for helping to improve BugId!
√ A copy of the error report can be found in C:\bugid\Internal error reports\2023-04-09 12։27։26.419274 BugId error report #1.txt.

Any help to fix this issue would be great. Please let me know in case any further information is required.

[SkyLined]

Wow, time flies when you are busy. I finally have some time to look at this.

This is a weird bug. ntdll should never get unloaded during normal application run. Even if cdb forgets about it, I should be able to get information by using the address at which it is loaded. I have no idea how this can happen or how to solve it. A few questions:

1. Can you reproduce this issue?
2. Can you reproduce with the --verbose flag and send me the output?
3. Can you share the test case that triggers it so I can reproduce locally?

I see the trial period has expired by now. If you need a license for BugId to test this, just request one at https://license.skylined.nl. You do not need to pay for it, just let me know when you've requested one and I will give it to you for free.

[maxcoderrrr]

Thank you for the update (also regarding the other two reported bugs)!

I have already deleted my test VM. However, when I was evaluating BugId, I remember that I came across this error a couple of times with different applications. I think it was also only on x86 Windows, but not on x64 - not completely sure anymore, it's been a while.

As previously mentioned, I am happy to test the updated version if it helps. Thanks also for the license, I will likely send you an email tomorrow or on Monday.

If I come across this error again with the updated version, I will make sure to provide an updated log file with the verbose flag added to this thread for your reference. I triggered it many times, so I don't think it will take long before running into it again.

[maxcoderrrr]

@SkyLined I have sent you a request, thanks!

[SkyLined]

License granted. Thanks for helping me improve BugId by filing bugs!

[maxcoderrrr]

I have sent you an email with more details, including a log file that had the verbose flag enabled, when I triggered again this bug. Hope it helps to identify the root cause.

[maxcoderrrr]

@SkyLined Did the log help to identify the root cause of the bug?